Bestiality and Sodomy Repeal Stripped from NDAA

I wrote my Senator expressing extreme displeasure at the fact that the National Defense Authorization Act contained a repeal of Article 125 of the UCMJ, which forbids Sodomy and Bestiality. I just received the following response from Senator Cornyn (R-TX).

Dear Mr. Grisham:

Thank you for contacting me regarding changes to the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) contained in the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (FY 12 NDAA; H.R. 1540). I appreciate having the benefit of your comments on this matter.

As you may know, the Senate version of the FY 12 NDAA (S. 1867) contained a provision that would have repealed UCMJ Article 125, which makes sodomy an offense punishable by court-martial. S. 1867 was referred to a conference committee to resolve the differences between this legislation and the House of Representatives-passed NDAA. As a conferee on that committee, I am pleased that the provision which would have repealed UCMJ Article 125 was stripped from the final version of the FY 12 NDAA (H.R. 1540), preventing this legislation from repealing or modifying UCMJ Article 125.

The readiness of our Armed Forces must always be the foremost consideration in any decision regarding military personnel policies, especially as our troops are serving in harm’s way in two active theaters of conflict. It was for this reason that I strongly opposed the repeal of the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy—a policy which served our nation well for more than a decade. The United States Government has no higher purpose than keeping the American people safe from harm. Our national security depends on the ability of our Armed Forces’ to maintain military readiness at all times, which requires maintaining cohesive units consisting of competent, fully trained personnel who share a sense of common purpose and confidence in their unit’s ability to accomplish its mission.

I appreciate having the opportunity to represent the interests of Texans in the United States Senate. Thank you for taking the time to contact me.

United States Senator

I haven’t seen the final version as presented to President Obama to confirm, but Senator Cornyn hasn’t lied to me in the past, so I have no reason to doubt him now.

21 Comments on “Bestiality and Sodomy Repeal Stripped from NDAA

  1. Oh, come on, everyone…beastial humans are just like everybody else; they were simply born that way. It’s all about mainstreaming the weird and freakish.

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  3. At least your Senator read your letter. Mine, Sen. Shelby, had some office flunky send me a form letter telling me what S. 1867 was all about. Whooopie right? Like I didn’t know what the bill was about but I had read enough to see he hadn’t.

  4. Hey CJ, f*ing animals should be illegal. “I don’t need no laws telling me not to f* my pig” sounds like some pig f*er rhetoric to me. Nobody who doesn’t wanna f* pigs will say people should be allowed to f* pigs. I don’t even know anyone who thinks there shouldn’t be a law protecting animals from weirdos like you. You are in the fringe.

  5. I thought we were more civilized than this, but if our military can’t “share a sense of common purpose and confidence in their unit’s ability to accomplish its mission” without having sex with some sheep then I don’t want them to.

    • The point isn’t that troops need a law to refrain from screwing sheep. That is a strawman argument and you know it.

  6. Dino,
    I’m with you about your consenting adults remark, but how does a sheep or other animal consent? I believe that is the concern here, not DADT.

    • A sheep consents by not kicking him in the nuts. A horse consents likewise. All animals have defense mechanisms that attempts to combat threats or perceived threats.

      We can’t play both sides of the street here. Either we all agree that animals have brains and are smarter than we give them credit for and maintain laws that protect them “cruel” slaughters, or we treat them like dumb animals who can’t defend themselves.

      • So, what’s your kink? Pigs, dogs? C’mon admit it.

      • Hey CJ, that IS NOT a straw man argument. Why allow bestiality in the army? It’s illegal in MANY states. If you can come up with a good reason to allow it, then I will concede the point. You say that animals are smart and that they can protect themselves… is that why we eat cows? Quite frankly, the fact that you are defending it is crazy. By your reasoning, the goat doesn’t kick him, then he is into it. You are kind of sick. I can see no way to defend bestiality. The sodomy thing.. I don’t care too much. Homosexuality belongs in the military as much as heterosexuality. As long as it doesn’t interfere in there duty or a fellow officer’s, and doesn’t break the law, it’s none of our business. Bestiality is against the law in most states. Also, this dehumanization of the army is getting crazy. They are people. Not cannon fodder to be thought of only after they are dead.

        • I agree with you that bestiality is wrong. My point is that who gets to decide that? Who gets to pick and choose which deviant sexual behavior is ok and which isn’t? I’m not advocating for bestiality by any means.

      • The rule of law does. Bestiality is ILLEGAL, like I said. That determines, not if it’s deviant, but if it’s ILLEGAL. Also, like I said, when sexuality of ANY kind gets in the way of our soldiers performance, it is the governments job to make sure it gets corrected. They do not have the authority to determine what is “vulgar” or “deviant”, but they do have the authority to uphold the basic law. If a soldier wants to be attracted to animals? That’s fine…. but the practicing of it is illegal, therefore, NOT permitted in ANY organization, let alone the military. Your defense of this is mind blowing.

        • Dr. Jerky, you seem to have a problem reading basic English. So, let me try and put this into words even a second grader can understand: I do NOT defend sex with animals. I’m not sure how much clearer I can put that. You may want to remove the “Dr.” in front of your name is this concept is too hard for you to understand, unless you’re the same kind of Dr. as Dre.

          Also, by your logic, the UCMJ also doesn’t need articles to charge for murder, rape, armed robbery, assault, and other crimes. After all, these are crimes that are illegal everywhere else, so they don’t need to be in the UCMJ right? Let me try to educate you again on something. The military does not have the legal authority to try regular crimes. The military has a history of trying and punishing most crimes committed by troops on a military installation. In some cases the civil authorities will turn a Soldier over to the military to be tried under our system instead of in public court. These are typically minor crimes. IF the military didn’t have a manual for courts martial, we wouldn’t be able to try these crimes. For that reason, things like sodomy and bestiality need to be in there!

          Now, I hope that clears things up for you. I don’t support bestiality. I don’t support sodomy. I don’t support homosexuality. My point is that if the government is going to say that sodomy – even consensual – is okay, why not polygamy, bestiality, and other sexual deviancies. I’m not in favor of any of those – I’m in favor of equality, pure and simple.

      • I keep checking in to see how crazy you get… that had nothing to do with what I said. Sodomy isn’t illegal, bestiality is in most states, and cruelty to animals is illegal in all states. Also, making yourself or another solider unfit for duty IS military jurisdiction. I’m not really sure what you are talking about “murder, rape” etc. This isn’t about “equality”, it’s the law. You should keep your name “CJ”…. “confused jackass” describes you well. You haven’t educated anybody; expect maybe now people are educated on how dumb you are…

        • Typical that those without a valid argument will resort to name calling. Since you have nothing else to add, I”m done debating you.

      • Yeah, we shouldn’t be insulting lol. “Dr. Jerky, you seem to have a problem reading basic English. So, let me try and put this into words even a second grader can understand” Luckily CJ, you never started a debate, since you had no idea what you were talking about. But you are right, I’m done too. You can go back to the zoo now.

  7. Hey CJ, what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home should have no bearing on military readiness and cohesion. What hurts morale and readiness are self-righteous, control-freaks who can’t mind their own business and act holier-than-though. As for the Repeal of Don’t ask, Don’t Tell, last year the CJCS Admiral Mike Mullen gave a very articulate and eloquent testimony before Congress on why the discriminatory law should be abolished. He stated on February 2nd, 2010 before the Senate Armed Services Committee, “it comes down to integrity, theirs as individuals, ours as an institution.” At the end of the year, a majority of Congress, both Democrats and Republicans voted to end the law. Since September 20th, 2011, Don’t ask, don’t tell has been a thing of the past. No problems so far.

    • Dino, the devil will surely be abusing you, just as you feel you deserve to abuse animals.

    • “it comes down to integrity…” Mike Mullen is a disgrace to the military. He admitted in Senate testimony that he served with homosexuals, but in admitting that, he confessed that he did NOT uphold the UCMJ by bringing charges against those homosexuals. Mike Mullen is a hypocrite.

  8. Printed version:

    On page 169 of the text:

    (d) REPEAL OF SODOMY ARTICLE.—Section 925 of such title (article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice) is repealed.

    Conference report (agreed by Senate):

    The House recedes with an amendment that would delete the repeal of section 125 of title 10, United States Code (Article 125 of the UCMJ).

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