Repeal the Second Amendment?!

I was reading a story today over at the York Daily Review, a Pennsylvania news site, and figured it’s about time I wrote another post to put some more reality on the internet. I keep pretty close tabs on discussions seeking to limit my right to keep and bear arms, especially when the conversation calls for a complete repeal of the 2nd Amendment that grants recognizes my God-given right to self protection.

Steve Zorbaugh, a liberal attorney in Pennsylvania, argues that since the Supreme Court ruled that individuals have the right to own firearms that the problem is with the Second Amendment and it needs to be repealed. Yes, like most liberty- and Constitution-hating liberals, Mr. Zorbaugh wants to destroy the parts he disagrees with.

The first reasoning he presents is that out of the nearly 800,000 words in the Bible, the word “gun” doesn’t appear even once! Neither does “liberalism,” “progressives,” or “leftists” so I don’t think they should exist either. What Zorbaugh fails to understand (or maybe just wants to ignore for convenience) is that guns weren’t invented until over a thousand years after the Bible was written. Never mind that a liberal using the Bible as a defense is in and of itself a little ironic seeing as how they’re trying to remove God from society.

Leaving all that aside, the Bible DOES recognize our need for self defense. In Romans 13:4 Paul counsels that we are not to bear our sword (re: gun) in vain. He says that those that do good works have nothing to worry about, but for those that would hurt us we are free to “execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.”

In Luke, chapter 22, Jesus tells Peter (who will later betray him) “he that hath no sword gun, let him sell his garment, and buy one.” This was approximately 35 AD when this verse was written.

This is important to mention because Zorbaugh said that “there’s nothing about a gun’s nature that calls for the kind of golden-calf homage many in America pay it.” It’s nothing but a “killing machine.” If this is true, why do police carry guns? Could it be that the mere knowledge that a police is packing heat prevents many from just blowing them off? Isn’t a sword no different than a gun in those respects? What good is a sword except to kill? It doesn’t make a very good letter opener and have you ever tried buttering unleavened bread with it?

Zorbaugh argues that our founding fathers needed guns to stay alive and that once we had attained our independence, guns were no longer needed. He says, “the justification for gun ownership that existed in 1787 no longer exists today.” Never mind that in 1787 we were already 11 years past when we needed them, right? We gained our independence in 1776, not 1787.

For a lawyer, I’m a little surprised that he isn’t a little more educated. Or maybe he is educated, but thinks the rest of us are not. His argument, which, by the way at least one liberal blogger seems to have swallowed, that every two years since the ratification of our Constitution we have peacefully “overthrown our government” at the ballot box without guns ignores much of our history. He does recognize the Civil War, errantly calling it the War of Southern Aggression when it was the South defending itself against an encroaching government.

If Zorbaugh had his way in 1787, Americans wouldn’t have been able to defend themselves against the Native Americans (no, we did NOT initiate every violent encounter with native Americans), Mexico, and others throughout our history. As a matter of fact, the 2nd Amendment is the SOLE reason why the North was able to win during the Civil War. May citizens with privately owned weapons were required to use them during the war.

The problem here is that liberals don’t understand that regardless of the Second Amendment, humans are entitled to defend themselves. Before there were guns, there were swords and bows and arrows. In early history, these were the tools used for self defense and hunting. Likewise, humans today are entitled to the tools necessary for self preservation. No government has the right or authority to tell me I can’t defend myself or hunt for my own food to remain alive. What I choose to hunt or defend myself with is my own business. If I want to shoot a pig or deer with a so-called “assault rifle,” I can do that. Who is Zorbaugh or anyone else to tell me I have to use a specific rifle? Personally, I love shooting pigs and coyotes with my SKS, which uses the same 7.62mm round as an AK – both considered “assault rifles.”

Zorbaugh then gives us another lame reason why common citizens shouldn’t have guns: the fact that we have over a million law enforcement people in America. Naturally, he doesn’t address that the United States of today is five times larger than the United States of 1787. Interestingly, I can turn this argument against Zorbaugh as well. There are one million law enforcement officers out there that are armed. Surely, every single one of them is a straight shooting, noble, and honorable public official doing EVERYTHING right. Not a single law enforcement officer would EVER abuse their authority and oppress the citizens they are sworn to protect. Naw, this is America, right Zorbaugh?!

Let’s assume that one half of one percent of those million peace officers are corrupt. That means that there are 5,000 corrupt police officers somewhere out there locked and loaded with citizen-funded weapons and ammunition. How does a defenseless society protect against that? Now, consider this: the United States is comprised of over 3.79 million square miles. That means that there is one law enforcement officer for every 4 square miles. Of course, those million law enforcement officer need to be on duty 24 hours per day, every day of the year to cover those 4 square miles. We know that isn’t happening, so even if the force was split equally in 12-hour shifts, you now have one officer per every eight square miles. But, few departments have 12-hour shifts for all it’s officers. So, using an 8-hour shift we have one officer for every 12 square miles. These numbers don’t account for leaves and time off. It doesn’t account for the fact that many of those million officers aren’t beat cops patrolling to ensure our safety.

I think you know where I’m going with that. But, let’s use the Utopian vision that 100% of the police force is on duty 100% of the time. This would ensure our safety, right? Wrong. In 2005, the Supreme Court issued a 7-2 ruling that citizens do not have “a property interest in police enforcement.” In other words, it’s not law enforcement’s job to protect you. In the case at hand, Castle Rock vs. Gonzalez, the Court ruled that even when there is a restraining order against a citizen, the police don’t have to enforce it or protect the target of the person to whom the order is given.

So, if it’s not the police’s responsibility to ensure my safety, whose is it Mr. Zorbaugh? Obviously, it’s my own responsibility.

Zorbaugh argues that instead of an amendment to guarantee our right to bear arms we should have a different amendment that recognizes our “right to safety.” Because we all know that THAT would end all crime and ensure our safety.

The fact is that gun ownership and an armed citizenry stops more crime each day than our one million law enforcement officers do. Every word in that last sentence is a SEPARATE news story about how an armed citizen protected himself WITHOUT a million officers. When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

In summation, I hope you enjoy the following public service announcement:

21 Comments on “Repeal the Second Amendment?!

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  2. Has a single person who is for the repeal of the Second Amendment ever heard of Thomas Jefferson? Maybe the American Revolution. How about the aftermath of the French and Indian War that led up to the American Revolution? Thomas Paine’s Common Sense? The Declaration of Independence that CLEARLY states the Colonists’ grievances against Parliament and the Crown. Apparently none of the liberals have passed American History in high school, or had any regard for it whatsoever. Check these out:

    “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms..disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.” – Thomas Jefferson

    “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” -Thomas Jefferson

    “The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.” – Thomas Jefferson

    “Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have … The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases.” – Thomas Jefferson

    “The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” – Thomas Jefferson

    Thomas Jefferson believed in individual liberty just as the other Founding Fathers did. Leaders who wish to take the liberties of his/her subjects is what our Founding Fathers dubbed a TYRANT. Do we want another civil war, or a complete revolution? I don’t think we want to end up like the French during their revolution and having to have 16 different governments before settling on one. The problem is the system criminals are put through. Do you honestly think that they will change once they’re put back into the world. I doubt it… If someone takes the life of another, just put them down – permanently, or torture them. Whatever works. I say whatever works as in either one. Anyway, It’s a done deal. QUID PRO QUO. Look at other governments from the past where a leader takes the liberties of his subjects. What happens every time? The people rebel. We do not need this. Just leave the Constitution as it is. There is a reason why there is a Bill of Rights and why the Second Amendment is in it. Why do you think the Articles of Confederation failed? The Articles of Confederation failed because there was not a BILL OF RIGHTS, lacked a central government, there was no executive power, and no power for the government to impose taxes. Although all of the points are true, the big picture was the lack of a Bill of Rights, and so one was created. If the government decides to take a tenth of the Bill of Rights away, what do you think will happen to the other 90%? It will only be a matter of time until our rights are stripped from us.

  3. Please I hope they do repeal the second Amendment there are crazy people out there
    Bear arm my ass they are full of shit

  4. Who cares what the bible says about anything. Another psycho kills a bunch of people and *some* gun owners start waxing eloquently on about the “2nd amendment”.

    Enough. How much blood in the streets is necessary? How many blogs do we have to read about guys who want to feel like they’re independent and free because they own a gun (you’re not).

    It’s romanticism to believe that having a firearm protects your liberty. There are plenty of firearms in Iraq. Hasn’t worked out real well for those Iraqis who have a problem with us being there, has it?

    No, the crime here is law abiding citizens who support the criminals amongst us by continuing to allow ready and free access to firearms, no reasonable limitations on the ability to purchase firepower (assault), and online channels to as much ammo as one can afford.

    In short, guys like you talking about the 2nd Amendment are the problem. It’s outdated and it’s wrong. It’s from the same document that said slavery is ok.

  5. Do I believe that every “free” individual should have the “right” to bear arms…. questionable. In self defense, absolutly…..However, In light of the “Dark Night Massacre” in Colorado, there is NO REASON for an “everyday” citizen to have legal access to “military” style semiautomatic weapons such as the one used and killed 12 innocent people and injuried more than 50 just because the second ammendment states that it is “his god given right” to access and hold such a weapon….. NO THANK YOU. There need to be regulations on exactly what type of “arms” are being beared and for exactly what purpose. In todays world the “arms” used are far more advanced than they were in 1776 and do far more harm in less time…. I guess you can go further with your argument and say that is your “god given right” to “bear” weapons of mass destruction too? To many innocemt people are being killed because our Second Ammendment is being abused. No one has the right to KILL because he/she has a right to bear arms, so why give them access to do so? Ahhhh yes, becasue it is our “god given right”.

    • Aurora and Denver sued to counter Colorado’s preemption laws some years ago. Once they did, both cities virtually outlawed carry. I love how those that disagree with carrying keep pointing out the “dark theater” and all that smoke in an attempt to negate what someone with a concealed (or open) handgun could have done. I just saw The Dark Knight Rises last night and the movie theater isn’t that dark during the movie. CS gas – which is what he seems to have used – doesn’t get very smoky (anyone that’s ever been in a CS chamber knows this). Finally, many accounts from witnesses and victims mention that everyone got down on the ground. There was no mass pandemonium of 300 people stepping over each other to get out of the theater. So, really, the only one standing was the criminal and the daring ones that tried to get out. No one can say what could have happened if someone had been armed in that theater. But, what we DEFINITELY know is what happens when no one is.

      The “military style” argument is a strawman. In the 1700s, ordinary citizens used “military style” weapons to gain freedom from tyranny. I have multiple “military style” weapons and they have NEVER been used to commit a crime…ever. Many of my friends have the same weapons and have never committed crimes with them. The second amendment is only being abused by liberals and gun grabbers who want to take away our rights. There are example after example of ordinary citizens that have used concealed handguns to stop robberies, mass killings, hijackings, etc. Your argument holds no water in the face of the facts. There are evil people in the world and taking away guns from the good ones won’t change their behavior.

    • LP,
      The “military style” was of little consequence.
      See his AR with 100 round magazine jammed early on.

      Most of the damage was likely done buy a common pump action 12ga shotgun (Remington 870, the best selling shotgun in history) but I can’t find much information on the injuries.
      If not the shotgun (which would have been the most effective weapon) then it was the .40 cal handguns.

      But it wasn’t the rifle.

  6. You had me until you defended the South in the civil war. Yes, it is true that they were defending themselves from a hostile North, but what they were defending was not acceptable.

    • You make the errant assumption that the original intent of the south was to protect slavery. This was only ONE of the issues the South was angry about that the North took up in order to gain popular support for war.

  7. Not to pick nits, but Peter didn’t betray Jesus, Judas did. What Peter did was to deny knowing Jesus…


  8. Here’s the link showing Steve is NOT a practicing attorney but a disbarred one. Of course he still refers to himself as a practicing attorney but he was disbarred many years ago for ineffective counsel due to his mental illness. It’s all on the internet.

  9. Steve Zorbaugh is not a practicing attorney. He is a disbarred one due to him being too mentally ill to represent his clients. It’s on the internet under padisciplinary board. Not sure of the exact link but it’s there.

  10. “We gained our independence in 1776, not 1787.”

    Small point, but the war didn’t end until the Treaty of Paris in 1783.

    • Good point. My wording was obviously off. That is the year we declared our independence, but I was remarking on the ratification timeline. Didn’t mean to confuse the two.

  11. CJ wrote May 22, 2012 12:51 PM on the Nasty Jack Blog
    I wrote about this insanity on my site as well. Of course, I used facts in my writings:

    Nasty Jack reply;

    Well, CJ, I have several problems with your “writing” and “facts.” Among them this “God-given right to self protection.” Have you given up on the NRA and feel you must go to God so you can tote that gun anywhere you want to? That’s not a “fact” CJ, it’s a stupid remark. Anyway, I thought your gun was your God.

    And the one thing you gun jocks continue to ignore is the difference in law enforcement when the 2nd Amendment was created and today. It was enacted then for the purpose of protection because they didn’t have the level—or any level at all—of police protection that we do today. You people are just misplaced dreamers who will attach themselves to anything that will promote your ridiculous cause.

    And the 2nd Amendment the “SOLE” reason the North won the war. Even Gen. Grant, in his inebriated state would laugh uncontrollably at that.

    But your comment that you “love shooting pigs and coyotes” is SICK. Anyone who “loves” taking another life needs help! Get it CJ!

    • “Have you given up on the NRA and feel you must go to God so you can tote that gun anywhere you want to? That’s not a “fact” CJ, it’s a stupid remark. Anyway, I thought your gun was your God.”

      Jack, let’s try to keep the rhetoric to a minimum. I am a life member of the NRA. They are more relevant today than ever. Period. Otherwise, you wouldn’t feel the need to attack the organization made up of millions of law-abiding, firearm-carrying American citizens. My gun is not my God. My God is my God. I never said or even inferred such a thing to invite your stawman.

      “And the one thing you gun jocks continue to ignore is the difference in law enforcement when the 2nd Amendment was created and today. It was enacted then for the purpose of protection because they didn’t have the level—or any level at all—of police protection that we do today. You people are just misplaced dreamers who will attach themselves to anything that will promote your ridiculous cause.”

      Another factually incorrect assumption made my liberal gun-grabbers. You can’t reinvent history no matter how hard you try. If you want to convince those with guns to give them up, try using facts to influence your argument. Using lies and made up innuendo only shows that you’re desperate and grasping at straws. The FACT is that the co-author of the 2nd Amendment already told us why we have a 2nd Amendment and it had NOTHING to do with police. “”I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”

      During the constitutional convention, Zachariah Johnson even stated that “the people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full posession of them.” He never mentioned anything about the lack of law enforcement capability. As a matter of fact, there were enough during those times. We have more per capita law enforcement personnel in the United States today than we did in the late 18th century, so your argument goes nowhere and is completely void of that work you use without the proper definition.

      Finally, I leave you with one more inconvenient truth from our 1st President, though I know that you liberals don’t believe in the concept of “peace through superior firepower.” Washington said, “Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable…the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.”

      Wait a minute?! Halt the presses. People don’t hunt with pistols! Liberals are constantly trying to take pistols from us because they are dangerous and have no part in hunting – which they falsely think is the sole purpose behind the 2nd Amendment.

      “But your comment that you “love shooting pigs and coyotes” is SICK. Anyone who “loves” taking another life needs help! Get it CJ!”

      I see the error in my ways. I forgot to also mention I love shooting snakes, skunks, and raccoons too. Do you mourn every time you drive your car and a bug is splattered across your windshield. Maybe you shouldn’t drive due to the enormous number of lives you take every time you sit behind that wheel.

  12. Instead of Steve Zorbaugh focusing on gun laws he should be focusing on staying faihful to his wife instead. He had an affair with me which lasted over 2 years and I have the e-mails to prove it and so does his pastor wife who ran for judge but lost (susan Emmons). Prior to that he had 2 other affairs. If anything Steve should want the right to bear arms because one day someone’s husband is going to come after him for sleeping with their wife.

  13. Instead of Steve worrying about repealing the second amendment he should be more concerned with his family life. I know Steve personally, for him and I had an affair which lasted over 2 years. He has 2 other affairs prior to the one with me and his wife (Susan Emmons) is a pastor at their church and ran for judge in York County a few years ago but lost by a windfall. His wife is well aware of the affair because my then boyfriend called her at work and told her and sent her the e=mails at her work. This guy is very out of touch with reality and is severely mentally ill causing him to be disbarred as an attorney.

  14. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. ~Robert A. Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress


    GUNS KILL!!!


    I dont hate gun owners, I feel sorry for gun owners.

    • Don’t feel sorry for gun owners; We’ll be perfectly fine as long as our constitutional rights aren’t infringed upon.

  15. If the Second Amendment is repealed, the First will be right behind it. This could get interesting.

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